Season 3, The Flagship Show, Episode 35: The Canonization of Vatican II

The "saint" in action

The "saint" in action

Well, here we are. The day that changes everything in the traditional Catholic movement - the "canonization" of Angelo Roncalli and Karol Wojtyla, also known as "Pope" John XXIII and "Pope" John Paul II.

We have reached an event in history that has only been rivaled by Vatican Council II and the introduction of the Novus Ordo Missae of Paul VI. Today's events are of such monumental and unspeakable scandal that words fail us to provide an apt description of this program.

Why is this not just business as usual? What will now happen to the traditional Catholic movement as a whole? How will those who identify themselves "traditional Catholics" reconcile their belief that Francis is a legitimate Pope bearing the authority of Christ with the idea that John Paul II is now a saint raised to the altars. The Conciliar Church now says that John Paul II is not only to be venerated -- but imitated -- as a man who displayed heroic virtue and doctrinal purity.

Join us for a live roundtable discussion amongst panelists Father Bernard Uttley, OSB, Nicholas Wansbutter, Justin Soeder, Mario Derksen, and Bill Seng as we discuss one of the darkest days in the history of Catholicism and the event that changes everything.

Episode Notes:

This episode references Season 2, Clerical Conversations, Episode 5: John Paul II and “Santo Subito!”


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Original Air Date: April 27, 2014
Show Run Time: 1 hour 57 minutes
Show Guest(s): Fr. Bernard Uttley, O.S.B., Nicholas Wansbutter, Dr. Bill Seng, Mario Derksen
Show Host(s): Justin Soeder

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